ASK me: Working With Kirby

Brian Dreger wrote to ask…

When you worked for Jack Kirby, it seems like you knew that he was this great artist (in terms of the legacy of comic books). But when you (and Steve Sherman) showed up to work on a day-to-day basis, and maybe you saw that he was creating some brand new character…was that really stunning? I guess what I'm asking is, did you realize that you were seeing something being created from scratch by someone important? Was it amazing? Or was it just, "Well, this is who I work for, this is what he does."

You have said that you had something to do with the colors of Miracle Man's costume. So at the time, was it thrilling that you might have been contributing to the next Captain America? I'm just curious because, I can't imagine being around a genius you know is a genius, and yet see him as just a nice, talented guy…and then go about your day-to-day job. It seems like it would be a constant "Pinch me, I'm dreaming" moment!

This is worded kind of stupid, but maybe you see my curiosity here.

The following is worded kind of stupid, Brian, but maybe you'll find my answer here. I met Jack Kirby when I was about seventeen years and four months old. He asked us (Steve and me) to become his assistants when I was just shy of eighteen. During that period — and I think this is true of most humans when they hit that age, everything in my life was changing…and when your life changes, you have a lot of "Pinch me, I'm dreaming" moments, especially if you recognize that dreaming can include the occasional nightmare.

I was well aware of what a unique, special ability it was to be around someone as gifted as Jack Kirby and if I hadn't been, I would have known because so many people told me so. In 1970, Steve and I took a trip back to New York where we visited the DC Comics offices, the Marvel Comics offices, the MAD magazine offices, Steve Ditko in his studio and a few other places before attending our first comic book convention. I met a staggering number of the people whose work I'd known and loved in comic books and with only a few exceptions (DC editorial folks), every one told us what a genius Jack was, how he'd created more wonderment than anyone else ever in comics, how fortunate we were to be around him, etc.

So I knew. And as I've gotten older and learned more about…well, about everything in the world, I'd like to think…my admiration for Jack has only grown. So I guess my answer to your question is that, yes, I knew I was around a man of great brilliance and accomplishment and with hindsight, that appreciation has only intensified.

Regarding "Miracle Man" — you're talking about Mister Miracle, actually — one of the many clashes Jack had with the DC staff was with the coloring folks who really weren't that fond of him or his work. The feeling was mutual. They fought him on every aspect of coloring on every character.

The only time he got his way was when he insisted on dumping the color scheme they came up with for Mister Miracle. I wrote about what Steve and I did back here.

No, neither of us thought we were contributing to the next Captain America or anything like that. We just thought we were being useful to Jack. We both would have done anything to please that wonderful man.

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Today's Video Link

More of The Muppets on The Ed Sullivan Show. I remember this one vividly from this performance and a few other places they did it. This was on Ed's show on November 27, 1966…

Comics For Ukraine – More Info

In the few hours since I reported that sales on the Comics For Ukraine benefit book had hit $13,222, sales have more than doubled to $28,761. And why not? What person who cares about humanity — or even, almost as important, good comics — would pass up a book with the following lineup of contributors?

Alex Ross, Arthur Adams, Dave Johnson, Bill Sienkiewicz, Brent Anderson, Sergio Aragonés, June Brigman, Kurt Busiek, Howard Chaykin, Joshua Dysart, Emil Ferris, Dave Gibbons, Pia Guerra, Rob Guillory, Peter Kuper, John Layman, Gabriel Rodriguez, Stan Sakai, Louise Simonson, Walter Simonson, Chris Sprouse, Jill Thompson, Matt Wagner, Mark Waid, Yours Truly and more.

You can order your copy or some affiliated merchandise over on this page.

One of the many reasons I'm excited about the project is that every cent of profit is being placed in the capable hands of my favorite charity, Operation USA, to direct to the points where it'll do the most good. You may have seen me write about Operation USA on this site and a little ad for it has always been in my right-hand margin here. It's the main place I send my money when I want to see it help people in need and I would remind you that you don't have to just buy the book to get funds to them. You can send them whatever you can spare right this minute. Here — I'll even give you a nice, clickable banner…

Today's Audio Link

The only silver lining I can come up with regarding the passing of Gilbert Gottfried is that the Internet is suddenly full of Gilbert clips. And if you're wondering what that man was really like, it is evident in the documentary about him, Gilbert. It's also in a podcast interview that Leonard and Jessie Maltin did with him back in 2017. Plus, you get to hear Gilbert and Leonard duet on the theme song from Car 54, Where Are You?

Comics For Ukraine

Announced this morning was Comics for Ukraine, a comic book anthology to help those whose lives have been devastated by the ongoing war in Ukraine. My buddy Scott Dunbier is assembling it and I'll let him tell you about it…

Among the many writers and artists contributing to this effort are Sergio Aragonés and myself. We're doing a new Groo story that will be included. You can see the whole list of contributors here and you can get your order in for a copy of this historic volume on this page. As I post this, orders have already been placed totaling $13,222 and we aren't even halfway through the first of thirty days when people can order.

But don't wait. Get your order in now. This is a book you'll be proud to own supporting a cause you'll be proud to support.

Today's Video Link

Two of my favorites — Bob and Ray visit David Letterman…

An Easter Memory

This ran here on April 8, 2012. That's long enough ago to run it again, don'tcha think?

Once upon a time, the May Company was the sacred place to shop in Los Angeles — especially the formidable outlet at the corner of Wilshire and Fairfax. It marked the west end of a strip of Wilshire full of department stores and that strip was known as the Miracle Mile. It's still called the Miracle Mile even though there isn't a single department store left there. Orbach's is gone. Harris & Frank is gone. Desmond's is gone. Mullen & Bluett is gone and so on. The May Company's lovely building is still there but inside it now is some sort of off-shoot of the L.A. County Museum of Art which is next door.

This memory takes place back when it was still the May Company, inside and out. For two or three years running, they did a special Easter promotion involving Bugs Bunny. Ads would appear giving a special phone number that kids could call to "talk to Bugs Bunny." Well, naturally, I had to call. I think I was six or seven the first time this happened but I knew how to dial a phone. And note that I said "dial," as in running one's finger around on one of these:

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So I dialed and got a busy signal. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Isn't "cut-and-paste" wonderful? Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again. Then I dialed and got a busy signal again.

And finally, it rang. And Bugs picked up.

Well, it wasn't Bugs, of course. Even I knew then it was Mel Blanc. But it also wasn't Mel Blanc. It was the recorded voice of Mel Blanc. But even that was exciting. In later years, it would be no big deal to call some number and hear a recorded announcement. Heck, there would be times when it would be a novelty to dial a number — any number — and not get a recorded announcement. But at the time, this kind of thing was kinda rare…and the fact that it was a cartoon character was very special.

I remember the first thing he said. It was, you may be surprised to hear, "What's up, doc?" And I remember the last thing he said. It was an admonition that I should hang up now so that someone else could get through. In-between, there was a pitch to get my parents to take me to the May Company at Wilshire and Fairfax where Bugs would have a special gift for me and a special, personal message. Well, you can guess where we were going…the next day, in fact. This was a few days before Easter.

That night, I was lying wide awake in bed, as I often did. I didn't sleep much as a kid. I would lie there half the night it seemed, making up incredible stories involving cartoons and characters I saw on TV or read in comic books. They were all about my phone buddy Bugs Bunny that night and I suddenly got the idea that I'd like to hear his message again…and also, I was curious. Was there just the one message or were there several and they rotated? And what would have happened if I hadn't hung up immediately? Would the message have repeated? Would Bugs have said something else?

I checked the clock by my bed at it said it was 4:10 in the morning. I had a hunch the phone might not be quite as busy at 4:10 in the morning.

So as not to awake my parents, I crept carefully out to the kitchen, which is where our only phone was. From all that dialing earlier, I had the number memorized so I called, worrying slightly that Bugs would answer and say angrily, "Hey, didn't you call earlier, kid?"  Or maybe, "What the big idea, waking me up at this hour?"

I got a busy signal. At 4-friggin'-11 in the morning. Someone else obviously had the same idea.

I put some peanut butter on a cracker, ate it and then dialed again. This time, I got through and heard the exact same message I'd heard earlier. At the end, when Bugs said to hang up so someone else could call, I risked him getting mad at me and didn't. And I heard…absolutely nothing. After about a minute, I hung up and went back to bed.

The next day, we went to the May Company. Near the center of the top floor, there was a huge display with big cut-outs of Bugs and Elmer Fudd and Porky Pig and other Warner Brothers characters. The phone message had made it sound like I could actually meet Bugs Bunny there and while I knew that wasn't possible, I figured there'd be something like a guy in a Bugs Bunny suit or a big robot or — and I knew this was a longshot but you tend to dream at that age — maybe they'd have Mel Blanc there.

They didn't. There were two cute young girls dressed in bunny ears and tails. This was a year or two before the Playboy Clubs opened with waitresses in bunny ears and tails and I always wondered if Hugh Hefner or someone working for him drew any inspiration from Bugs' helpers at the May Company. Probably not but you never know.

One gave me a little Bugs Bunny coloring book with a bag of crayons and candy attached. The other was in charge of a telephone on a pedestal. She held out the receiver for me and I took it and heard another message Mel Blanc had recorded. It was something about how he was sorry he was so busy he couldn't be there in person but you know, "us rabbits" are pretty busy just before Easter, painting eggs and figuring out where to hide 'em. He told me to be a good little kid and eat all my carrots and to make sure his helpers gave me his special Easter gift. And then he hung up on me and his assistant yanked the receiver from my grasp.

I didn't feel cheated by this since I'd known going in I wasn't going to really meet Bugs Bunny. I remember being rather thrilled to have gotten that close to him. And then my parents went shopping.

That's about everything I remember about the Bugs Bunny promotion. I'm going to guess they did it the first time in 1958 or 1959 when I was six or seven. If I had to bet, I'd bet the latter. I know they did it at least one following year, maybe two. Same ad in the paper, same message on the phone. We only went to the May Company in response that one time, presuming that since the phone message was the same, the pay-off when you got to the store would be the same. In 1961 or so, they did the same deal with Fred Flintstone, even though, having lived before Christ, his connection to Easter was at best tenuous. A recording by his voice Alan Reed was on the phone and when you went to the May Company, they had two cute ladies in ratty cave girl outfits filling the same function as the bunnies.

What they did have, I think in lieu of a phone message, was a robotic Fred Flintstone. It was a very good likeness about five feet high. His mouth opened and closed, not particularly in sync with a constantly repeating voice recording — Fred welcoming us to the May Company and wishing us Happy Easter. His right arm went up and down. My mother took a photo of me next to him but, damn it, the pictures didn't come out. A day or two later, they trucked the Robot Fred over to the local ABC studios and I saw it "perform" on the morning cartoon show hosted by Chucko the Birthday Clown. The voice didn't work and the moving arm kept stopping and starting, and Chucko (who was a pretty funny guy) kept warning Fred that if he didn't talk, ABC would cancel his prime-time show. I assume that robot is long since gone but I'd give about a year's pay to have it in my living room.

This has been an Easter Memory…and just about the only one this Jewish kid has from his childhood.


P.S., Added in 2022: Wondering what became of that beautiful building that housed the May Company department store? Well, it's still there and it's still beautiful. But it's now the Museum of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences…

Where I Won't Be

Next weekend is the 2022 San Diego Comic Fest, a low-key convention quite unlike the city-sprawling monster that is Comic-Con International.  In fact, Comic Fest was founded — and in many ways, has succeeded — in recapturing the wonderment of the early comic conventions in San Diego that grew and grew and grew into Comic-Con International. Small attendance, small dealers room, small panel rooms…focus mainly on comic books, especially older ones.

I've been to several Comic Fests and always had a good time so I agreed to be at this one but now, before it convenes next Thursday, I have to announce my non-appearance. It's not COVID keeping me away. It's knee problems and a few other things and…well, I'm sure it'll be just great with the fine lineup of guests who will be there. My apologies for the no-show. I still plan to be at Comic-Con International this July.

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Millions of years ago when I started this website, I had a whole section of it devoted to tips about Las Vegas — where to go, what to see, where to eat, where not to go, what not to see, what not to eat, etc. At the time, I was spending about an eighth of every month in that city owing to an interest in Blackjack, an interest in the history of "Old" Vegas and an interest in a showgirl there. The interest in Blackjack soon abated, the last remnants of "Old" Vegas disappeared and the showgirl now has a husband and kids, plus the huge hotel where she did her showgirling was imploded and replaced, of course, by a huger hotel.

So my recommendations all went outta-date and I removed them. If you might he headed to that town now, I suggest you check out the website for The Las Vegas Advisor, a newsletter I've subscribed to since it came in the mail printed on paper. A gent named Anthony Curtis runs it and what he doesn't know about that city ain't worth knowing. More important is that LVA is one of the few places where hotels, restaurants and shows get reviewed in a venue not supported by advertising bucks from the casinos. There's plenty of good, unbribed information on their site even if you don't spring for a subscription.

Also, among the thriving industries in Vegas is making YouTube videos wherein the host — usually, a local — takes you around the city and shows you where to go, what to see, where to eat, where not to go, what not to see, what not to eat, etc. There are a lot of people making these but my favorite is Norma Geli.

I do not know Ms. Geli but I find her a delightful and adventurous guide to the city in which she dwells. It still amazes me that in this era of cameraphones and computers and video editing software, someone can produce something as professional as she does.

She seems to post every week and she has close to a hundred videos on her channel. Below, I've embedded her most recent report for which she actually steels her courage and jumps off the top of the tallest hotel in the city just for us, her loyal viewers. At least, I'm a loyal viewer. Watch and you may become one too…

Adam Online

Not that the world needs another podcast but I find myself enjoying The Adam Ragusea Podcast, which has just been a "thing" for a couple of weeks. I have previously linked to some of Mr. Ragusea's twice-weekly videos which are either about food science or they're cooking videos. I find the former interesting and the latter — even though I will probably never attempt any of them — fun to watch. A few of you (just a few) have written to say you find Adam pedantic or haughty but I don't. I find him to be a smart guy and I like watching the way his mind works.

His podcast is mostly about food and the one that dropped this morning leads off with a discussion of GMO food that gives a different view on a subject about which I've heard plenty. I don't know quite what to believe but I'm glad I heard what he believes. And I was even gladder at what he said when he changed subjects and answered some questions not about food but about life and dealing with its problems. Not all of you will find this valuable but those who do may find it very valuable. Here's the link…and you might want to find your way to earlier ones and later.

Today's Video Link

Don Rickles appearing with David Letterman…

Friday Morning

Sorry for the sparseness of posts the last few days. I've had more important things to do. "More important than blogging?" "Yes, amazingly, some things are." The sparseness may continue through the weekend.

I'm wondering aloud if Comedy Central or someone is considering staging a big, two-hour (or longer) memorial/tribute to Gilbert Gottfried, inviting all his comedian friends to come in and roast the deceased, vying to outdo one another for tastelessness. It would have to be long because dozens of comics would demand to be part of it…and we'd repeatedly hear the phrase, "Gilbert would have loved it." Which he would have, assuming his family wasn't discomforted by the enterprise. I saw a little of the actual funeral online but this would be different. This would be for the mass audience and not done in a place of worship with a rabbi present. Someone's gotta be considering that.

Just because I don't mention Ukraine on this blog doesn't mean I'm not continually horrified at what's going on there.

If you haven't caught last Sunday night's Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, do so while HBO is still rerunning it. The main segment about Data Mining was extraordinary, what Oliver and his staff did to try and help the situation was brilliant…and it wouldn't surprise me if it actually had an impact. If you don't get HBO, you can watch that main segment here.

Be back later…maybe.

Today's Video Link

A couple of people have sent me this link to a musical spot from an episode of Charlie's Angels back in the eighties. It's not photographed well and it's not supposed to be a good number…but there's something oddly appealing about it. Most of those who sent it wanted to know if I could identify the ladies in it and, sorry to say, I can only identify two…

One is the lead performer — the one in the middle — Eileen Barnett, who was in a whole lot of musicals I saw in L.A. back then and since. Just a wonderful talent. One show that I recall as especially terrific was a revue called Movie Star that ran for a while at the Westwood Playhouse back in 1982. It was the creation of Billy Barnes, Ray Aghayan and Bob Mackie.

Aghayan and Mackie were, of course, the most celebrated costume designers in variety shows of the day and the many outfits created for Movie Star were stunning. I believe Mackie did most of them because Aghayan was busy directing the show…and it was the kind of show which, if the songs hadn't been as good as they were, you'd say that the audience left humming the wardrobe.

But the songs, which were by Billy Barnes, were all gems. Billy, who I once had the pleasure of working with, was the foremost writer of what they called Special Musical Material back then. He composed clever songs for revues, TV shows and other presentations. He did all the songs on Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, for instance. Earlier, he had done a number of revues that played in local theaters and in New York.

The cast of Movie Star — at least when I saw it — consisted of Gale Baker, Eileen Barnett, Christopher Callan, Larry Cedar, Daniel Fortis, Katie Labourdette, Brad Maule, Henry Polic II, Leigh Scarritt, Kathryn Skatula and Barry Williams. Yes, that's the Barry Williams from The Brady Bunch.

Sadly, Movie Star did not have much of a life after the Westwood Playhouse. I believe there were one or two productions elsewhere, including one in La Mirada. Like the several revues created by Howard Crabtree (another designer of outrageous, colorful costuming) or like Beach Blanket Babylon, it was very expensive to duplicate what the performers wore on stage. And you might even have to cast the performers to fit the costumes…and worry about those costumes wearing out.

There was no real cast album of Movie Star but a record was released many years later of Billy singing its songs at the piano. Ms. Barnett accompanied him on a few but the album did not, in my opinion, do justice to the fine score he wrote. It used to be downloadable on iTunes but it doesn't seem to be now. Billy, when I ran into him, used to promise me a tape of the original production but I somehow never got it. I hope one exists somewhere…and my, I have gotten way off the subject, haven't I?

Apart from Ms. Barnett, the other performer I can identify in the Charlie's Angels number is my old friend, Nancy Fox. I haven't seen her in many years but I'm pretty sure that's her. Some of you may remember Nancy from a short-lived sitcom, Temperature's Rising, but she was all over television for a while, including several other episodes of Charlie's Angels.

In this video, Eileen Barnett is the lead singer in the middle and Nancy Fox is the blonde on the far left in a blue top and white boots. I believe in this episode, she got killed soon after this scene. If anyone can identify anyone else, let me know…

Today's Video Link

Twelve cellists from the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra play the theme from The Pink Panther