Let us recall a key moment from The Producers (the movie). Max Bialystock and his co-conspirator Leo Bloom go to the apartment of Franz Liebkind, the Aryan author of "the worst play ever written," Springtime for Hitler. To obtain Liebkind's signature on a contract, they repair to his flat where he denounces Winston Churchill for his rotten painting and makes Bialystock and Bloom join him singing German songs. Eventually, he signs — but not before insisting that they join him in a secret ceremony and take something he calls the Siegfried Oath. He makes them don helmets and costumes suitable for a Wagnerian Opera and act out his silly ritual, eventually signing the contract in blood.
You may not recall this scene from the movie. That's because it never made it into the movie. When Brooks was trying to sell his idea to producers, he would act out much of the screenplay and he always convulsed his audience when he performed the Siegfried Oath. The scene was filmed with Zero Mostel, Gene Wilder and Kenneth Mars but excised in the editing process. The film's editor, Ralph Rosenblum, wrote about it in a book called When the Shooting Stops in which he describes how he cut (and from his viewpoint, usually saved) a number of movies. The way he tells it, he decided that the Siegfried Oath should be dumped. Mel, remembering the incredible laughs the scene received when he'd performed it in pitch meetings, refused. They fought and eventually Mel gave in and the material was excised. The only remnant in the finished film comes when Franz bursts into Bialystock's office late in the action and yells, "You haf broken the Siegfried Oath!" The first few times I saw the movie of The Producers, I didn't think anything of it. (I also thought he said, "secret oath.")
This is the way I've always understood things. However, my friend Marv Wolfman is sure that when he saw the movie — in New York, shortly after it opened — the Siegfried Oath was in there. Does anyone know if this is possible? Does this scene still exist and if so, how come it hasn't been an extra on some video release of The Producers? Yes, I know a version of the Siegfried Oath is performed in the Broadway musical but Marv says that's not what he's recalling. He says he saw it done by Mostel, Wilder and Mars in the movie. Did he?